DP: I'm glad we can agree on this issue now

One more note, all we ever use in our panels is 4" thick, never 2. In our bass traps we use 2" FRK, and 2" regular.

Hope this helps.

On a side note.. Blake. You're website gives me a major headache. I shouldn't have to spend so much time trying to figure out what your font says. Also, your Products link appears to be dead.

It's great what you are doing! My best wishes to you and the company. But man does my head hurt from that font.

DP-

you wrote Do you have a link to any of these rooms? If so, I'd love to see them. A quick google search with the terms "eric desart" and "studio" revealed only one hit- the recording.org site. I don't care enough to do any more looking- but if you have something handy, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks,

R

In reference to the orignal question......I purchased a half dozen Real Traps and am very happy with the results. My main application was in my vocal room/booth which is a converted utility 12x5 closet. I had some two inch Sonex on the walls which took care of any flutter echo but didn't cure the low end build up in the room. I had resisted buying any of the foam corner bass traps mostly because I think they are way over priced and I decided to give Real Traps a try. I took all the Sonex down and put a single Real Trap in each corner. My low end problems are now under control and the room sounds better and slightly more "live" in a good way. I can't say they are a fix all solution with my limited experience, but in this particular situation they did the trick.

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Thanks guys for the suggestions. The product link is dead because we have not gotten a page layout done yet to include the different lines of products we do. We are custom only, no standard units are produced. In many cases, our products are one of a kind. Some of our products have certain names they fall under, i. e., our PRO (programmers) console line. 3 categories, PRO, PRO L, and PRO XL. Basically different names for different sizes. The PRO line has a workdesk top rather than a space for a digital console. The console in the pictures section is a PRO XL.

I am considering changing the text font to a different font. I want to keep the site white on black. I know it is hard to read, and I have heard this a few times. I am just having a very hard time finding a good font to compliment our logo font. Any suggestions?

Thanks guys


Oh and by the way, Please sign up on our message board if you visit the site. No mailers or anything like that, we just want to keep you involved with what we are doing. Thanks!

Strange.....I went to the site and couldn't find the "poor English" that you had left.

I hear ya, Man.

I can't listen to the Rolling Stones' song, "I Can't Get No Satisfaction" for that very same reason.

R Tyck,
This is Eric's website

http://www.acoustics-noise.com/

There are no photo's of his work there as far as I know, but I was able to find a few of his projects through a websearch. I'll see if I can find them again and post the links.Try this one

www.galaxystudios.com/

LH,
I'm glad that you're happy with your purchase and that the Real traps helped your room. Once again, I'd like to reiterate that it wasn't/isn't my intent to bash Real Traps or Ethan, just that if you're so inclined, they're very easy to make, and you can pay yourself with the cash you save! Then again there's alway's the eight finger theory that Glen01 was so eager to point out
Regards

Hi folks,

A customer just called to tell me about this thread, and I hope nobody minds me chiming in. I'm not here to push my products! But I saw a fair amount of misinformation that needs clarifying.

> Real Traps makes traps with industry standard 703 ridgid fiberglass. <

Actually, we use 705 exclusively. In the beginning we used a "sandwich" consisting of 2-inch 705 and 1-inch 703, but we switched a while back to 705 only. It costs more, as Blake can surely attest, but it works better at low frequencies. Note that there is more to MiniTraps than just a slab of rigid fiberglass! There's also a dual-layer membrane that enhances their low frequency performance even further by quite a bit.

> they make their plastic frames in house <

MiniTraps are built in a painted steel frame that's custom manufactured for us.

> The ones that he now manufactures as 'Real-Traps' are also 4' <

Note that MiniTraps are completely different from the wood panel traps in my original plans from Electronic Musician magazine. MiniTraps are not a smaller version of those traps.

> Ethan never directly answered any of the questions that were raised, and insteadn responded with threats of lawsuits against anyone who who daredto "smear" his good name or that of his company. <

That's so far off the mark I'm not sure where to start. There are no questions remaining to be answered. The enormous hostility Eric and some others showed toward me was totally unfounded. I asked repeatedly there "What questions?" yet nobody ever answered. If you have specific questions, either ask me here and now or please don't accuse me of being evasive.

DP, if you think Eric Desart is all about science, I'll be glad to post many links where he started fights unprovoked, behaved badly, and was told to leave by other forum members. One is going on right now in the alt.music.home-studio newsgroup. I don't know what Eric's problem is, or why he stalks me, but I want no part of it. Anyone can compare our respective credibility in the pro audio industry very easily - just go to Google and enter his name and then enter mine.

Thanks.

--Ethan