#78942 - 03/07/04 06:23 AM
Re: OT: Real Traps
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Get some 703 and build the "traps" ( they're actually broadband absorbers ) yourself! Go to www.studiotips.com and check out the info there. Also, do a search on the "acoustics group" forum ( you can find a link at studio tips.com ) I've got nothing against Ethan per se, but there's no "magic" in what he's selling ( even if it might seem that way )and some of his data is questionable at best, and downright misleading at worst. Good Luck
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#78943 - 03/07/04 07:09 AM
Re: OT: Real Traps
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For those of us with 8 fingers left, prefabricated traps are a very elegant solution.
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#78944 - 03/07/04 08:16 AM
Re: OT: Real Traps
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Ethan is very devoted to good working ethics, and not ripping people off, while providing them with a better solution to foam treatment. He has been very helpful to our company as well as a few others that make custom studio treatment etc. Yes, there is nothing magical in what he is providing, but it is something that, until a year or two ago, was non-existent in the market. He was one of the first guys to experiment with home studio treatment with materials other than the norm. You can create these treatments yourself for a fairly inexpensive amount. But what our companies are here for are people who don't have the time, the tools, or the technical ability to make them on their own.
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#78946 - 03/07/04 08:41 AM
Re: OT: Real Traps
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Sean, I sent you an email off-site. Once our rooms are done in the next couple weeks, I'll post final PIX. I'll let you all know when the article will be out in MIX.
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#78947 - 03/07/04 04:14 PM
Re: OT: Real Traps
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Shrimp, It's really too long a topic to go into here. All I can say is, if you're interested, go check out the www.studiotips.com acoustics group. There was a long exchange of posts between Ethan and a number of well established acousticians. Suffice it to say that there were some serious questions as to how Ethan measured ( acoustically ) or tested his "traps" and how he interpereted and presented the resulting data. Ethan never directly answered any of the questions that were raised, and insteadn responded with threats of lawsuits against anyone who who daredto "smear" his good name or that of his company. Doesn't sound like someone who's "very devoted to good working ethics, and not ripping people off, while providing them with a better solution to foam treatment" to me....'Nuff said 
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#78948 - 03/07/04 06:28 PM
Re: OT: Real Traps
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Registered: 11/14/03
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Loc: franklin TN
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First off:
The panels are 180 bucks. If he wanted to rip people off, he would charge more than that.
Second, despite the company I work for bieng in direct competetion with his company, he provided me with a great amount of info concerning his design and what it offered compared to what was on the market.
Like i said in my other post, there is nothing "magic" that he is doing, just using better material than foam. Everything I read and everything he says has never suggested to me otherwise.
And where are these post located at on that site you were talking about? i dont see any posts from him.
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#78950 - 03/07/04 08:51 PM
Re: OT: Real Traps
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Originally posted by shrimp: some of his data is questionable at best, and downright misleading at worst. DP, please elaborate on this charge. I won't speak for DP, but i found the following thread interesting. Note that my knowledge of acoustics is book-based, and though i could dazzle someone that knows nothing about acoustics, in reality i know little more than nothing. My control room also sounds like pea soup in a blender... Because of that, i could not possibly take a side in the debate. It is interesting reading, though.... Recording.Org Studio and Control Room Acoustics
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