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#52665 - 12/31/01 11:57 AM phase inverse
mango Offline
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Registered: 05/23/01
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Please confirm this one...

When recording drums, I understand that the over-head mikes should be phased-inverted. Therefore, my guess is that at mixdown, over-heads should be left alone...right?

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#52666 - 12/31/01 01:48 PM Re: phase inverse
ynghermes Offline
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mango,

Who told you that?

The only mic I'd reverse from the getgo would be the under the snare mic (if I used one). Checking the phaze with headphones and/or in mono would be my deciding factor. And no I don't reverse the phaze on the overheads.

H.

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#52667 - 01/01/02 09:51 AM Re: phase inverse
Silk Offline
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Registered: 04/28/00
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I think that more times than not the O.Hs get flipped but it isn't automatic. Sometimes you get the distance right by moving the mics. If that doesn't work then flip the mics. Take it one mic at a time aligned to the snare usually. the mono headphone thing works great. It's much easier with 2 people. Also listen for the quality of the cymbals. If they swish too much after the initial crash then they are still out. Good Luck. Silk.

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#52668 - 01/01/02 02:10 PM Re: phase inverse
ynghermes Offline
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Are we leaving out the thirds rule? I've heard it explained many differant ways, here is mine... The kik is 1/3, the sn is 1/3, the toms are 1/3. The distance from the snare to the oh's is '1', so the distance from the toms is 2/3's. The distance from the sn to the fl is 1/3 and 2/3's from the kik, on and on.

Silk, if 'a' cymbol swishes, it's usually a refelection off a drum head crossing the diaphram of one of the tom mics.

H.

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