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#140224 - 11/07/10 12:17 PM Re: Why I love President Obama [Re: Andrew K]
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No, you didn't cover it.

Originally Posted By: Andrew K
Equal air-time would be something equitable. Republicans would probably call that socialist and against freedom of speech.


And so, why haven't the "equitable" Democrats pursued this?


Cheers,

Knife

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#140226 - 11/07/10 12:38 PM Re: Why I love President Obama [Re: Knife]
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Originally Posted By: Knife
No, you didn't cover it.

Originally Posted By: Andrew K
Equal air-time would be something equitable. Republicans would probably call that socialist and against freedom of speech.


And so, why haven't the "equitable" Democrats pursued this?


Cheers,

Knife


"equitable" Democrats? I said "more equitable".

Why do you have this propensity to see everything as back or white? You seem to lack the ability or be unwilling to see things in degrees. Nothing is absolute... except for maths. In my opinion, this is one of the problems with a lot of the Tea Party followers and the right wing movement (granted, Demos can be that way too... but it seems almost pathological in the case of many self-proclaimed Repubs I've talked to).

So.. I'm not saying it's impossible for the Repubs to pass this... I'm just saying it will never happen. Just like I'll never sleep with you... It' not impossible... but it will never happen. So, I'm sticking with my original statement:

Originally Posted By: Andrew K


HA!.... good luck on getting the Republicans to sponsor that bill!!


Cheers,

Andrew K



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#140229 - 11/07/10 09:01 PM Re: Why I love President Obama [Re: Andrew K]
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I find this kind of curious:

Originally Posted By: Andrew K
Why do you have this propensity to see everything as back or white? You seem to lack the ability or be unwilling to see things in degrees. Nothing is absolute... except for maths.


especially after YOU said:

Originally Posted By: Andrew K
HA!.... good luck on getting the Republicans to sponsor that bill!!


And I responded by changing it to:

Originally Posted By: Andrew K

HA!.... good luck on getting the Republicans ANY politicians to sponsor that bill!!


Now, somehow, I'm the one that sees things as only binary?!?!?!

Okaaaaaaaaaaay...



Originally Posted By: Andrew K
So.. I'm not saying it's impossible for the Repubs to pass this... I'm just saying it will never happen.


No one said you said it was "impossible," as opposed to "not likely to happen." You can stop trying to parse your words to deflect a quarrel that no one is having about them.

Your point - as stated - was that REPUBLICANS, ONLY, would not ever let that type of legislation pass. You had a clear opportunity to include Democrats, to say "politicians" as a general group or, to not say anything at all. Yet you decided to make a very pointed statement: that ONLY REPUBLICANS would never pass that type of legislation.

And I said that type of legislation wouldn't be - and indeed hasn't been - passed by ANY politicians in office.

Now, you want to say YOU see things as nuanced by degrees and not strictly along party lines?

good for you but, if that's the case, you have a VERY confusing way of articulating your sense that these things are not strictly about party affiliation.

So, I'm sticking with my original response:

Originally Posted By: Knife
HA!.... good luck on getting the Republicans ANY politicians to sponsor that bill!!


and pointing out that by naming only one political party in your response, you only serve to perpetuate the black and white way of thinking about these issues.

Cheers,

Knife

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#140233 - 11/07/10 10:58 PM Re: Why I love President Obama [Re: Knife]
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No Knife, no mater how hard you try... I will not sleep with you! laugh

Originally Posted By: Knife

Your point - as stated - was that REPUBLICANS, ONLY, would not ever let that type of legislation pass.


Where did I say that? I don't seem to remember saying that. crazy

Originally Posted By: Knife

So, I'm sticking with my original response:

Originally Posted By: Knife
HA!.... good luck on getting the Republicans ANY politicians to sponsor that bill!!


Here... let me fix that for you....

Originally Posted By: Knife
HA!.... good luck on getting any politicians and especially Republicans to sponsor that bill!!


Kisses,

Andrew

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#140239 - 11/08/10 10:51 AM Re: Why I love President Obama [Re: Andrew K]
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Originally Posted By: Andrew K
Where did I say that? I don't seem to remember saying that. crazy


Like I said: You had the opportunity to include Democrats, or anyone else, to say "politicians" as a general group or, to not say anything at all about who would support that type of campaign reform.

But you made a very pointed statement: ONLY naming "REPUBLICANS" as a the single type of people that would never pass that type of legislation.

I appreciate your capitulation, but I still don't agree that it's "especially Republicans" that won't agree to that type of legislation. Democrats, in may respects, have MORE to lose in supporting any reform like that.

Not that you will agree with that - because to you, Republicans "seem more self-interested," - but it's true and it's why Democrats have staunchly resisted any type of reform that would cut into their ability to access media.

Look it up!

Big Hugs & Kisses,

Knife

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#140241 - 11/08/10 11:39 AM Re: Why I love President Obama [Re: Knife]
Andrew K Offline
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Wow... I can't believe you caved so fast. I expected more. wink

xoxo,

Andrew K

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#140242 - 11/08/10 11:42 AM Re: Why I love President Obama [Re: Andrew K]
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Nope.

Just looking for the hugs...


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