The Economy
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A: 1.83%
B: 3.03%
C: 5.04%
D: 19.09%
F: 71.01%

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Foreign Policy
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A: 3.42%
B: 3.16%
C: 7.83%
D: 23.79%
F: 61.80%

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Health Care
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A: 1.97%
B: 2.20%
C: 3.44%
D: 9.80%
F: 82.58%

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Afghanistan
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A: 3.28%
B: 14.23%
C: 27.98%
D: 23.87%
F: 30.63%

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Iraq
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A: 3.32%
B: 9.62%
C: 27.05%
D: 24.72%
F: 35.30%

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Threat of Terrorism
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A: 3.05%
B: 3.67%
C: 8.19%
D: 21.09%
F: 64.00%

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Energy and the Environment
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A: 2.60%
B: 4.09%
C: 11.98%
D: 21.50%
F: 59.82%

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Social Issues
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A: 3.06%
B: 4.04%
C: 12.81%
D: 21.16%
F: 58.93%

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Bipartisanship
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A: 2.92%
B: 2.43%
C: 4.20%
D: 9.54%
F: 80.91%

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Obama's Overall Job as President
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A: 2.36%
B: 3.12%
C: 4.19%
D: 26.04%
F: 64.28%


The link

Gee .. is this the new wing of FauX?

Beats me. I provided the link so you can cast your vote in the unscientific, meaningless poll.

The polls go up and down. Let's see where we are in three years. I suspect that Obama will accomplish a lot, in spite of all the Republicans and some of the Democrats.

Eight years of horrendous leadership will take some time to reverse.

What does that have to do with the poll? This is a survey (according to people who participate in the CBS poll) of how the current administration is doing with the specific issues.

Polls can be very misleading.

If I were to vote my disapproval of the health care bill (because I believe it's not progressive enough) then due to conservative media bias my vote would be misconstrued to mean I believe it to be too liberal....

It seems like all the Republicans do is try to beat Obama down for political reasons as was so overtly demonstrated in yesterday's healthcare roundtable. I can't stand it when I hear the only compromise they'll accept is to tear up the bill and start over. That's not compromise. I would concede that this new bill might not be successful but at worst it's not going to do anything, it's not like it's going to bankrupt the country and it's not like big brother signing your grandmother up for a death panel. At best, it might bring costs down for working families so they can afford healthcare. Then there's the Republican plan - do nothing! If that doesn't seem like politicians just trying to protect their pharmacutical/insurance company cohorts then I don't know what does. I'm not saying there aren't corrupt Democrats as well, but everytime I hear the Republicans talk, it just seems like their concerned about just one thing, protecting their own butts!

Ok off my soapbox now.

All the Republicans are interested in is being in power, that's all they care about. They spent 8 years trying their best to tear Clinton down, now Obama. There is something very sick about these people.

Basicly they want Obama to fail. They want the president of the United States to fail, they want to country to fail, so they can look good, a "told you so" moment.

These people are evil, period, there is no other excuse for what they are trying to do. Why are such "christians" so full of hate and anger? I've been trying to understand what is going on inside their heads.

It's based on christian beliefs. They want the country to be a christian country. Like believers in Islam want there government to be based on Islamic beliefs. They focus on abortion, keep repeating the lie that governemnt well pay for abortions, that it is in the bill, when it is not.

They spread lie after lie, using fear tactics to convince people of these lies. There are enough dim witted people out there who well believe them, or maybe blinded by their christian hatred, want to believe them.

Yes, but my Catholic upbringing taught me the rationality behind their "Lie often and proud" - they think that a simple "confession" in private is all that is needed to preserve "salvation".

Just when exactly did the republicans think that they OWN Christianity? I would tend to think those that call themselves Christian but stand for their unethical and contant lies are NOT Christians. I don't recall the chapter and verse that says "Lie to those that don't agree with you for your personal benefit". It may be in the Catholic "additions", but I never read them.

Yep

It has everything to do with it. People disapprove because they are expecting miracles and fast, and they're not getting that. Well sorry, it's going to be a long, slow road back for this country.

Whatever.

Right

Especially when you disagree with them.

As for the poll, I think it shows how the majority of people think Obama is doing. Change=more of the same.

Almost everything you're saying is bullshit, ExcelAV. Sorry. It's just horrible to read people believing that nonsense.

1. The United States is not a Christian country, it's a diverse country. We have a Judeo-Christian heritage in the West, and Christianity is the largest religion in this country, but that's very different from saying we're a Christian country.

2. Right-wing religious freaks were a big part of the coalition that elected that asshole Bush. The Republicans are perfectly happy to exploit those fools in the most hypocritical way to gain power.

3. Your understanding of economics is as wrong as the whole Republican party's, and they're a bunch of asshole morons with nothing to offer the country. No they don't care about the country for the most part; they care about regaining power.

4. It would be irresponsible for the government to pull back from supporting the economy by cutting spending right now. The economy would really crash and unemployment would go much higher.

Nobody is saying you can spend your way out of *debt*, the argument is that increasing the deficit now is way better than the consequences of not doing that. The millions of people who still have jobs becaus of the stimulus understand that very well. When the economy picks up again is the time to deal with it, because then the tax base will go up. We're going to have deficits either way.

5. Everything you're saying about the healthcare bill is disgusting and a repeat of a lie. Everything. The healthcare bill will not put the country deeper in debt, it will reduce costs and reduce the deficit over time. Tens of thousands of people die every year because they don't have coverage, and this will insure 30 million more people.

6. The country voted in a Democratic president and Congress to reform health insurance, and they're doing that. Bills passed the House and the Senate with a clear majority.
this is not something being crammed down the public's throat, it's a gift. The only reason as many people are opposed to it as are is that they've been fed a steady diet of hideous lies for the past year. And we saw lots of them in the healthcare summit yesterday. The Republicans SUCK.

7. Reconciliation requires 51 votes in the Senate. It's not a minority. Meanwhile the Bush tax cuts for the rich, which are responsible for a huge part of our national debt right now, were pushed through by reconciliation.

8. Fuck central Massachusetts and fuck the Republican party.

Well I guess it sucks to be any one but you man....

My point is that many poll questions are slanted and/or incomplete and simplified to such a degree as to make a yes or no vote irrelevant.

Joseph, Do you approve or disapprove of the way political candidates eat small children?
No comments now, just check one.

I approve.

I disapprove.

Results of this poll show that most Americans support my belief that politician's table manners are atrocious.


Do you
A- think Zumbido should run for president as a republican in 2012
or
B- think Zumbido should run for president as an independent in 2012?

Wow, it seems like an overwhelming percentage of Americans polled believe Zumbido should run for president in 2012!

I think that about sums it up Nick. These people need a good swift kick in the ass and maybe a bit more. Remember Bush after he was elected at that conference (In Michael Moores Movie) "This is a meeting of the haves, and the have mores, I consider you to be my base".

The Repulselicans have to be stopped. They are crazy, period. I don't see how what Obama is "more of the same". No not really. He has a brain, and smarter than most people that where in that health care summit.

He's really taking on these disgusting rich fat fucks who have had there way for far to long. The world they want (to restore the country back to our founding fathers) mentality does not exist anymore. It's a new century, a different time.

I can't think of a better person than Obama to start into motion the change that needs to happen. I can't think of another person who could do it at this time. If your into instant gratification, then no, Obama is not the guy for you. Like said, it's going to take a long time to turn this republican mess around.

No, Jeff, it sucks that we have the political climate Paul Krugman described so well in his blog today:

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/27/youre-so-vain/

Excerpts:

And Jeremy, my previous post describes the obstacles Obama is facing. Being right is shouted down as wrong in every case.

However [coming back to edit this] the reason to be optimistic is that he really does understand the long-term issues facing this country. He knows that we need to produce more graduates with scientific backgrounds to compete with the likes of India and China, that we need to invest in renewable energy because that's the most likely place all the jobs we need are going to be, and of course that we need to deal with the soaring costs of healthcare because they're not sustainable.

Love the irony of reading this as Justin runs a Newsmax.com banner ad above that reads: "Obama care...Stop Him! Vote here now"

As Nick said, more background noise, devoid of facts and meant to only distract.

Justin, what's up with the "Obama Care" add dude??? Are you trying to be some kind of asshole Idiot?

To be clear, I use Google Adsense which automatically places paid ad based on it's algorithm that scans the content of the page. Google Adsense generates a small amount of revenue, just enough to pay for the forum's hosting costs.

Ok guys this topic is beaten to death. I won't lock it but let's move on. I don't object to the opinions stated here but the bad language and endless ranting isn't appropriate for this forum. In other words, please guys, play nice. Make a point and move on.

Move on? What does that mean? You have a ton of adds here, I find the anti Obama adds very offensive, and on top of that you tell us to stop talking about something very important or you well shut down the thread. Come on Justin, are you trying to be big brother?

Jeremy, and I say this with respect, you need to grow up. Nobody is here, including me, is out to be your big brother, censor you or control your mind. As I have for years now, I'm just trying to maintain a shred of decorum. So please, act like an adult and treat others as you would like to be treated - with respect. If you'd taken the time to read and understand my previous post, I don't control the ads, they are automatically placed by Google Adsense based on it's algorithm. In other words, Google scans the content of the page and matches it to it's database of paid ads.

And by the way, this is primarily an audio forum - not a place for you to run for Congress.

I love it!! Google bases it's ads on the content of the site, and they are political ads!! OK, back to audio....

I just have to point out that this is twice now that Hopi has said this:



...about this particular poll and it's simply not true.

This poll was a simple "apply a grade" poll. There are no questions or double meaning that can be implied.

The questions are direct, single-response questions and the answers to the questions are unmistakable responses: Included with the question itself and it is reflected as such.

Yes, if you want a long running thread, we only need to talk about how good Bush was for the country. See how much better off we are 8 years after he started? No more pesky other countries trying to be our friends - it's much easier to calculate stock values without using up so many digits.

Knife,
Sorry if the intentions behind my comments weren't clear.

Yes it's a very simple poll.
Regardless the grade I'd give to the questions asked could be the same as someone who's reasons for dissatisfaction are diametrically opposed to mine.
That's what I'm trying to convey.
Pundits tend to take the results of polls like these and read in their own interpretations as to why people voted in a certain way, not how they voted.

Justin, I well work on growing up. I did read what you said. As far as political talk goes, talk to Nick about that. I hardly weigh in on such topics. You allowing the anti Obama add to stay is more or less endorsing that BS. After all, it's your forum!

I'm not the only one here complaining about your high handedness shutting down threads in your opinion only need to be shut down.

That's what happens in Iran, the government tries to shut people up
because they don't like what they are saying.

I'll work on growing up Justin, and maybe a few others here as well.

I'm working on growing down, not up.

Since I quit smoking I'm growing out, not up or down.

Deteriorate definition - become worse or disintegrate; "His mind deteriorated"

That's what's happened to this thread. Locked.